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do recordings and live gigs of baroque music fit here too? [13 Mar 2013|12:28pm]

[ mood | contemplative ]

hi; i've been listening to a lot more music from the original baroque (and earlier) than mid-sixties' (and later) baroque pop, recently; do people "here" think pointers to excellent baroque from more than four decades ago would fit?

Poll #1901796 feetnotes

is lj community baroque_pop a good place for posts about baroque music?

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sorry [17 Jan 2010|10:35pm]

sorry if this has been posted already


Have you guys seen this? Any faves from here?
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nirvana's fascinating tiny goddess [28 Apr 2009|03:57am]

[ mood | remebering the summer of '67 ]

nirvana - the real nirvana -'s "tiny goddess" was more than just a turntable hit - a single that was chosen as a favourite by a dj or three and it gained popularity with at least a part of their audience, but didn't quite make it to the top of the charts; in "tiny goddess"es case, it was chosen as one of the last discs of the week on radio london by john peel (if i remember correctly, johnnie walker also played it most enthusiastically), and i think made it into their top thirty: but it was not picked up by auntie beeb's new radio one, and without continuing airplay slipped slowly away into undeserved obscurity.

if they are remembered today, it's primarily for their charting second and third singles, "pentecost hotel" and "rainbow chaser" (which was probably the most effective over-enthusiastic use of the new technique of phasing ever *g* - but not really typical of the group). the more beautiful "all of us" was - like "tiny goddess" - perhaps too understated, too restrained, and too musical, to appeal to radio one's controllers, who'd signalled precisely the style of empty-headed commercial pop music they were building their station around, with the single they chose to launch with.

nirvana's two lps for island were not commercially successful, and chris blackwell dropped them (their third album eventually surfaced on pye [pye international, iirc, for some reason] with a less than entirely complimentary reference to him...); "the story of simon simopath" was not helped greatly by its amateurish (though striking) cover art, and that for their second was monochromatically subdued; and after a brief period of availability as deletions, they became quite pricey "collectors' items"; but they have been transferred to cd: imcd 301/980001-0 (both the stereo and the mono mixes, which differ significantly, plus single b-sides and a previously unreleased track) for "the story of simon simopath", and imcd302/980001-1 (plus a late single a-side and b-sides) for "all of us".

so; two albums well worth investigating if you don't already know them, and at an affordable price, now they're remastered to cd; not all the tracks are brilliant (nor are they all baroque pop; "requiem for john coltrane" was quite a surprise, when i played that single b-side forty-odd years ago *g*), but there was no-one else quite like them, and their best was superb.

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Boudewijn de Groot_Picknick (1967) [10 May 2008|11:44pm]

Wonderful psychedelic baroque pop from Netherlands. Enjoy!
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Blood, Sweat and Tears Triva Quiz [07 May 2008|02:36pm]

 I got a 60. :(   
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[12 Feb 2008|08:22pm]

So I was listening to another great tune and felt like sharing.

Alan Copeland - You're More Fun

Just change the "doc" to "mp3"


Alan Copeland won a Grammy in 1969 btw....
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[02 Sep 2007|02:42pm]


"We built our castles in the air/ a dream that only we could share

But now, it's over and done/ but that was yesterday-and yesterday's gone;

How carelessly we let love burn /So much to give, so much to learn

But now, it's over and done/ 'cause that was yesterday-and yesterday's gone;

Seasons come and seasons go/ But still I hear you whisper low

My love, what have we done?/ I loved you yesterday, but yesterday's gone.

- Chad Stuart's original lyrics to "Yesterday's Gone", by Chad & Jeremy

From the liner notes of the 2000-released anthology The Very Best Of Chad & Jeremy. Producer John Barry wanted Stuart to lighten up his more poetic verse to sound more like a 'pop' tune. Compare these to the version we're all familiar with.
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[12 Aug 2006|11:43pm]

Anyone have an interest in discussing the darker side of baroque pop? favorites and the like.
In general my baroque pop tastes run a little a lot dark, the way i like my psych...and everything really.
I'm especially fond of Paul Roland's strange baroque pop, anything the Brothers Gibb did until '73ish, Love, Chad & Jeremy and less fond of
the borderline kitschy stuff.
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Tea and Oranges [13 Jun 2006|08:14pm]

In May of last year, I posted two reviews from the same site, http://www.allmusic.com, comparing different version of Leonard Cohen's Suzanne. Here is a Link

The original isn't really Baroque Pop, but it has been covered by two Baroque Pop bands, Spanky and Our Gang as well as the Fairport Convention. I provide all three version below. I just wanted some opinions as to which you think is a better version. TBH, I think all bands set out to make a good song so I hate admitting I prefer the SAOG version. I just can't deny my love of their heavenly harmonies.

In case you were also wondering what the story behind the lyrics are (Source - http://lib.ru/SONGS/cohen/faq.html): According to a Radio 4 documentary on Leonard Cohen in London last night [Saturday, November 26, 1994] Suzanne was written in Montreal about Suzanne (not sure of last name) who was the wife of a high-society friend. She was apparently a beautiful woman who he was very taken with. She and her husband made an invincible couple and he was limited to touching her body in his fantasy.The harbor is the water front of Montreal and the "lady of the harbour" is a statue on that waterfront. "Tea and oranges that come all the way from China" refers to the Constant Comment tea (small pieces of orange peel mixed into the tea) that she gave him at her place overlooking the harbour.

Original by Leonard Cohen - Suzanne - 3.552 MB
From the 1968 album Songs of Leonard Cohen. It's the first song on the album.

Cover by Spanky and Our Gang - Suzanne - 3.464 MB
From their 1968 album Like to Get to Know You. Brilliantly produced by Stuart Scharf (three is the magic number fame) though he doesn't even mention them ever so I'm not sure if he ever even like them ... It's the seventh song.

Cover by Fairport Convention - Suzanne - 5.144 MB
From the 1987 release of their 1968/1969 recordings entitled Heyday: BBC Radio Sessions, 1968/1969. Their producer Joe Boyd said that most of the songs on this album were vetoed from apearing on their 1969 album Halfbricking. Surprising seeing as that album only had 8 tracks. Surely they could have allowed one or two of the dozen or so tracks from Heyday on it?

Poll #747399 Tea and Oranges

Which is better

Version 1 - Original by Leonard Cohen
Version 2 - Spanky and Our Gang
Version 3 - Fairport Convention
All three are great!

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The Left Banke [18 Mar 2006|08:03pm]

... mildly amusing baroque-pop moment. Jens Lekman played here in Auckland the last two nights, and I managed to blag my way into doing a DJ set both nights. For anyone familiar with his work, there's a sample of The Left Banke's "I've Got Something On My Mind" in his song "Maple Leaves". Anyway, in my DJ set I cheekily played the Left Banke song - they're totally obscure here - and I heard a few people bemoaning the fact that I was playing a song by the artist in question, until their looks of derision suddenly turned to looks of complete confusion as soon as the vocals kicked in. Damn smarmy indie kids.
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[08 Mar 2006|09:55am]

[ mood | sick ]

they're probably not even getting the royalties.


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[26 Feb 2006|04:22pm]

Would anyone know if and/or why not the Seekers album A World Of Our Own is available in stereo? Or is this some sort of 'purist revival' thing, like the re-issue of their 1967 album Seen In Green, which was a 'double', merely consisting of the LP concerned in both mono & stereo?

I mean, this was 1964; the only two people deliberately cutting sides in mono were Phil Spector, because he was just plain weird, and Brian Wilson, owing to being virtually deaf in his right ear since he was three.
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R.I.P. Billy Cowsill [20 Feb 2006|11:14pm]

(X-posted everywhere)

I'd just been thinking of Billy Cowsill this morning when I caught a newspaper headline in a convevience store window announcing that Billy's gone to finally appear with his brother/fellow Cowsill member Barry in an Allen Freed extravaganza somewhere in the great beyond.

I do remember his local appearances with Blue Northern and The Blue Shadows ('dead guys music'), as well as his production work for four guys I knew, the once-local rockabilly act The Rattled Roosters, now (if they're still out there; Google was a hodgepodge trying to track them down) based out of L.A. last I heard.

I always wondered what Cowsill really thought of David Cassidy...
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Hello [01 Feb 2006|04:59pm]


I've just joined this group ... I found it when googling The Ladybug Transistor. I'm Lawrence, and I live in New Zealand. I'm a big fan on a bunch of bands who, I guess, fit into the baroque pop mould. The Left Banke, The Zombies, The Walker Brothers, (and 60s pop in general) and more modern stuff like Belle & Sebastian, Eric Matthews and/or Cardinal, Camera Obscura etc. You name it ... if it has killer pop melodies and nicely arranged strings, I'll probably like it. I'm also involved in an indie label here in New Zealand - Lil'Chief Records (lilchiefrecords.com) and a couple of our bands, The Tokey Tones and The brunettes, kinda fit in with this genre as well. (There's a jukebox on the site if you're interested in hearing some of the stuff, although this definately isn't a sales pitch.)

I'm not sure if he's ever been mentioned here, but is anyone a fan of Swedish pop songwriter Jens Lekman? If not, he might appeal ...

OK, thanks

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The Great Impostor [11 Jan 2006|03:22pm]

[ mood | accomplished ]

I'm quite pleased with this, and think it could benefit from some classical instruments over t'top, à la the oboe solo in Ladytron.  Sorry about the electronic drums, our real drummer has scarpered.

The Great Impostor

audio: hi-fi stereo (3.42Mb)
monoaural (1.71Mb)
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Two acts worth mentioning...just to stir up some activity over here [24 Dec 2005|11:03am]

[ mood | pensive ]

Anyone here a fan of the late-60s sib act The Cowsills? I hear that they were allegedly the real-life inspration behind the "Partridge Family" TV series.

Anyway, I've been getting to dig some of their songs, especially "Hair" and "The Rain, The Park (And Other Things)" (aka I Love the Flower Girl). If I'm not mistaken, the latter song figures prominently in the soundtrack of the film "Dumb & Dumber" when Jim Carrey's char woos his on-screen love interest (Lauren Holly - whom he would in real life latter marry and eventually divorce). Recently, they have figured in the news as one of the members - a recovering substance abuser - has been counted among the missing in the wake of Hurricane katrina's devastation in the New Orleans area (thankfully enough, he has since been found - according to ET weekly).

Roughly from the same timeframe, there's singer/songwriter Laura Nyro. A precursor of Norah Jones and Katie Melua, Nyro manages to meld her country and gospel influences with the lounge-friendly instrumentation typical of the period. (Cool note: I think she's quite open about her bisexuality) I'm quite surprised that her compositions have been covered by the likes of Barbra Streisand and Blood Sweat and Tears.

Hopefully, there are those who share in my appreciation of these two fabulous but much-overlooked acts from that time.

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[18 Oct 2005|07:01pm]

The Heavy Blinkers own my soul.
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[17 Aug 2005|06:44pm]

Anybody here a fan of the Free Design? I've been listening to clips of them a lot recently, but have yet to find any mp3s, records, or CDs anywhere...can anybody hook me up?

For those not in the know, the Free Design is a greaaat, saccharine in the best of ways 60s/70s baroque pop bands from New York. It's hard to listen to them and not smile.

To hear them, go to Aquarius Records' homepage and search for them...they've got streams.

- Palmer (Hi, I'm new)
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[27 Jun 2005|11:50am]

At the risk of sounding ignorant, just what is the "conceptual nature" of Odessey and Oracle by The Zombies? (If indeed there is one at all.) The booklet of the 1998 CD reissue says something along the lines of "Although the enormous success of 'Time of the Season' initially overshadowed the album's conceptual nature..." and I was just wondering the concept they were referring to is just a sort of musical mood/theme concept a la Pet Sounds, or a more narrative type concept.
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Spanky and our Gang Download [15 May 2005|09:02pm]

Richie Unterberger tries to say that the best version of Leonard Cohen's Suzanne is by the Fairport Convention...Collapse )

I kinda think he is WRONG. My favorite version is by Spanky and Our Gang. Bruce Eder concurs. Review of album ... Collapse )> The group opens new vocal territory on the six-part harmony "Sunday Morning," and they do arguably the best cover ever of Leonard Cohen's "Suzanne," which dazzles with its tempo changes and the sheer variety of timbres employed. Review of album continued...Collapse )

I've uploaded it using YouSendIt:
Spanky and Our Gang - Suzanne 3.46 MB .

And as a special bonus, I'm giving you guys they're top ten hit as well:
Spanky and Our Gang's - Like to Get to Know You 3.16 MB (Radio Edit).

If you have trouble downloading, holla. (there's a limit, 25 downloads or 7 days; whatever comes first.
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